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Tasha Tilberg & family

Tasha Tilberg is a Canadian fashion model who moved to New York when she was 15 years old to start her career. A decade later, she met the talent agent Laura Wilson in Los Angeles, and they tied the knot in Mexico the following month. After the birth of their twins, Bowie and Gray, the family left Los Angeles to live on an organic farm in British Columbia on Canada’s West Coast. Here we check in with Tasha and Laura to hear about their experiences of life off-grid, their decision to raise children in nature, and the challenges of setting up a vineyard surrounded by hungry bears.

“I am always fascinated by those people who move away from cities rather than to them. They seem to gain something that I don’t have. That is inspiring. For myself it is about connecting to nature; I find that feeling more and more rewarding.”

— Jonny Johansson, Acne Studios

Where exactly do you live?

Laura Wilson: We’re landlocked in that you have to get here by plane from Vancouver, or by taking two ferries. So it’s either a half-hour flight, or six hours driving and getting on two ferries. Everybody who lives here wants to live here, if you know what I mean. It takes a little while to get to Powell River.

Did you grow up nearby Tasha?

Tasha Tilberg: Not exactly. I was born near Vancouver, an hour outside the city, and then we moved to Victoria Island. I moved every two years as a kid, and when I was six we moved to Toronto. We still moved every two years for some reason, in an around Toronto, and when I was 15, I moved to New York.

How about yourself Laura?

Laura: I’m American. I grew up in Colorado and then California. I’d say I’m a California girl — I’ve spent a lot of time in San Francisco and then Los Angeles, and I met Tasha in Los Angeles, through a mutual friend. We bought a house together in Los Angeles in 2007. We knew we were going to have a family, and Tasha had property up north. We knew that when we had kids — and were talking early on — that we would want to move our kids out of Los Angeles.

Did you not want your kids growing up in a city, or was it that you didn’t want growing up in LA specifically?

Laura: It was more about LA.

Tasha: We were fine initially. When they were babies it was nice, we had a beautiful garden and they were able to enjoy the outdoors all year round.

As LA is more suburban than urban, it’s not so hard to have a house with a garden.

Tasha: For sure, it’s very beautiful, and you can make your house into a beautiful oasis. But we both had a feeling where we wanted to allow them more space.

Laura: I think LA is wonderfully alive and people are very driven — and that’s very exciting — but you also get sucked into this collective energy of ‘go go go’. You’re also in your car a lot, which is not that fun with kids [laughs]. That kind of buzz is good for people when you’re at a certain time in your life, but imagine having small kids... We wanted to instil this sense of keeping it simple and slowing down — LA just didn’t seem right for us.

How did you settle on this house in this specific part of the world?

Tasha: Around 15 years ago, I had a big sheep farm near Toronto. It was 230 acres, but I didn’t connect with the area as much — I felt drawn back west. So I did this big road trip with my mom and we went all up and down the coast, camping and exploring different areas. I came upon this town Powell River on the Sunshine Coast and fell in love with it. We went kayaking, it was just so beautiful, and I was like this is all I want to do — kayak for the rest of my life. I found this amazing property, off-grid, a total shack which needed major work, and I was like ‘I love it!’ So about a year later I bought it — I had to sell my farm, and then got the house and do all this work on the house for about 12 years. When we moved from LA, we moved up to that house. But it was just a bit too remote for us; it was so beautiful, set on a cliff right on the ocean, and we enjoyed a lot of aspects of it, like kayaking off the beach. It was awesome. But driving to town 45 minutes each way with little kids was a lot.

Laura: It was off-grid — that was a new experience!

Tasha: Yeah, I really put you in the bush.

Laura: It’s funny because when Tash and I first got together, she took me up to that house. I said “I love you, but I will never live here.”

What was it that turned you off living there; the composting toilets perhaps?

Laura: That’s it — there was no way. It was a beautiful place to vacation, but the work involved just felt so intense to take on. But of course, we ended up living there.

Tasha: And we loved it.

Laura: Yeah, I actually liked it better than she did.

How long did you live there, off-grid, for?

Laura: For a little over a year. We then decided to sell that house and move a little closer to town, and that’s the property we’re on now. It’s 11 acres, on all the city utilities, but it still has quite a rural feel. We have organic farms on either side of us, but it’s only a 10 minute ride into town.

It looks like the house from Days of Heaven, the Terrence Malick film. Do the kids go to a school in town or are you homeschooling them?

Laura: They would like that — homeschool!

Tasha: Our son would like to be homeschooled. Our daughter Gray likes going to school and all the social interactions. Bowie though would love to be homeschooled — he talks about it every morning. He doesn’t want to get dressed; he wants to have a leisurely morning in his pajamas, playing and doing his things.

I can see on your Instagram account that you’re growing grapes — can you really make wine that far north?

Tasha: It’s only our second year — we harvested some grapes last year for wine; some are table grapes, but the majority is for wine. We haven’t bottled anything yet. We have big glass containers, carboys, of wine, but we really didn’t get that much last year because of issues with the bears and the powdery mildew. This year we hope to be able to make more wine and sell it to people. It’s a learning experience, and we’re still learning.

Hold on — bears? Do they come onto the property often?

Tasha: Oh yeah.

Laura: Everyone wants these grapes: the bees, the wasps, the birds, the deer, the bears. And the bears get the first word, and we haven’t figured out how to manage them yet. At one point Tash and I were walking across the road, and there was a bear lying down, feeding himself grapes like some Roman god.

Do you keep any animals on the farm?

Laura: Yep. We have 12 chickens, we have a rabbit which we rescued, we have four sheep, three dogs...

Tasha: ...And hopefully a cat for Bowie soon. Maybe also a snake, or a lizard.

That sounds like a real farm. Do you guys eat meat, or are you vegetarian?

Tasha: I’ve been a vegetarian since I was nine, but I guess I’m a pescatarian. Gray is also a pescatarian. Bowie likes meat, a lot. I have no problem with raising meat for use, as long as it’s done really well and you know the animal has had a good life. Laura has a few more issues though...

Laura: ...I eat meat, occasionally, but I can’t imagine killing an animal. Even though we watch the cows in the pasture behind us, and we’ve eaten them — we’ve had jerky from them. It’s trippy. When we first got the chickens and I went out and collected the eggs, sitting down to eat them was a little bit weird.

Tasha: It’s a skill, learning to work with animals like that.

How much was the decision to move to a farm guided by the children, or your own sense of wellbeing?

Tasha: I grew up in apartments in cities, so I always had this longing — my mom had a farm years ago, and my family had homesteads before I was born — this desire and interest in surviving off the land and being connected with the rhythms of the Earth. I’ve always gardened; even when my mom had apartments, we would have an allotment garden if we could. I always had this goal of raising my kids in nature and on a farm, and Laura knew that from day one, right?

Laura: Even in LA we had a lot of produce growing in the garden; fruit trees and vegetables.

Tasha: I think it’s super important for kids to know how to plant a seed, and how it becomes food, and to respect it. That whole cycle — I can’t not be a part of it.

Do you see yourselves running away from society, or trying to create a new one?

Laura: I’d say a little of both. Tasha and I have done a lot of travelling, we’ve been immersed in a pretty fast-paced world, her with modelling and me with the music business, so we’ve experienced a lot of that. Running away from that mentality and that pace; yeah, there’s a bit of that. Tasha is a bit of an introvert, so it works well — there’s not a lot of people who just wander onto the farm, or wander into Powell River. It’s not that easy. On the flipside, we’re sharing this mentality of creating something here in Powell River with others in our home and our community. That is really special. There are a lot of likeminded people there, a lot of people who grew up in Powell River, went off, got creative, then came back, had kids — because they see the value of it. And other people are moving here to do the same, to sustain themselves with food, have clean air and clean water. So it’s a little bit of both.

It’s a very conscious choice to say no to the mainstream way of life and the rat race. Did anyone feel threatened by your decision to move away?

Laura: I wouldn’t say threatened. People were bummed out that we were leaving, especially as we have these beautiful kids that they wanted to get to know. But a lot of people — especially in light of what’s happening in the world and the unmentionable leader of the United States — are actually pretty envious of what we have. I have to add though, that every time Tasha goes to Paris, she’s like “We need to move here!”

Tasha: That’s true. I love Paris.

Laura: New York as well. We’ve spent a chunk of time in New York recently, and when you see how resilient the kids are there you’re like “Ah, it would be amazing to live here.” We’re not doing it, but you know.

Tasha: That’s the difficulty; it wouldn’t be sustainable for me to be there for any length of time, in the city, but the cultural things that you gain are so incredible. That said, there’s nothing like sending the kids outside barefoot and they whip their clothes off and they’re running around completely free — I’m not worried at all. They’re just going to play and figure it out.

Laura: I think we made the right decision. You see how the kids are taking the world in. Our kids are now at the age where they’re going to want to be a bit more social, and if we travel to cities with them they’ll get a lot out of it. We’ve gone to cities and we have to remind them that they can’t run off two blocks ahead — there won’t be a bear there, but there might be something else [laughs].

Can you talk me through an average day on the farm? What time do you wake up?

Laura: It’s funny because when Tasha and I are home with the kids, our routines are quite different as we’re quite different from one another. She’s much more on-schedule, and I’m more like, let’s sleep in, we stayed up quite late last night.

What are the early morning chores?

Laura: You have to pack the kids’ lunches, get them dressed, get them fed, get them ready for school. Then you’ve got the dogs to feed, the chickens to let out and give a bit of feed and water to. Then you’ve got the sheep — if it’s nice weather you can let them out, but if the weather’s shitty you don’t want them out in the cold traipsing around in the muck, so you feed them a bit of hay. You’ve got to let the bunny out and feed him. And then there’s the ongoing: weed-whacking, spraying the grapes, things like that.

What else?

Tasha: That’s it presently, but as Laura said, it’s ongoing. In winter all the grapes are dormant, so that’s when you prune the vines. The grass is exploding now it’s spring, so we’ve got a bit of maintenance to do.

Laura: Talking about winter — Tasha is the wood chopper, she’s chopping up all the wood into kindling so we can build a fire. It’s quite chilly in the winter.

Tasha: But not too chilly! It doesn’t go below minus 10. It usually hovers around zero, but still that’s cold enough. Where we are is in the rain shadow of Vancouver Island, so we actually have a lot less rain than Vancouver itself. We still have quite a bit of rain, because it’s a temperate rainforest here, but also a lot of sun — it’s the Sunshine Coast.

How did you learn how to do all these chores on the farm?

Tasha: I’d had a farm before; I’d had about 20 ewes, and chickens, cows, goats, horses — even donkeys at one time. So I was quite used to it. Laura had to learn the routine, and she’s doing really well and enjoying it more; mucking out and feeding the animals, the routine of waking up and letting the animals out.

Which of these chores do you least look forward to Laura?

Laura: Hmm. The only time I don’t enjoy it is when it’s dark and rainy. In the winter when you’re trying to do the evening chores, and you’re trying to cook dinner for the kids, and it’s wet and you’re cold and you’re walking through the muck.... But it passes, so it’s fine. I’ve developed a good rhythm and I pretty much enjoy it.

Why do you believe it’s so important for kids to experience this kind of life in nature? Do you relate it to the bigger picture of the environmental crisis — that what we do not know we do not love, and what we do not love we do not save?

Laura: You nailed it. The fact that our kids know where meat comes from. That you have to kill a chicken if you want to eat chicken. That they understand...

Tasha: ...Chickens have personalities and they are beings. It’s quite a profound thing to know that a chicken is giving their life for your nutrition. They’re not mindless beings which you take at will — you have to have an energy exchange and that gratitude and appreciation.

Laura: And then the kids start to ask questions — it creates a dialogue which feeds into other things. They know about factory farms and the condition of animals there, and not because we’re trying to drill them with something. They’re actually asking us, “Why don’t you eat meat when we go to this restaurant?’ ‘Why won’t you buy that?” Also, where we live has a large population of First Nations people, so the kids learn about how they’ve sustained themselves. We have books on the stories and myths they have passed down, so the kids are learning and integrating that into their philosophies.

Is there a particular tribe that lives in your area?

Laura: Yes, the Tla’amin, who have an amazing history along the coast with the resources that are there, or have been there. It’s quite interesting to learn about how they have been living off the land and the sea. The Tla’amin are self-governing now, so there’s been a lot more reconciliation and interest in learning from them and honouring the practices that have sustained them. I wasn’t aware of the atrocities that were committed in Canada — as an American, I had no idea. It’s good that the kids have the opportunity to understand, as this happens everywhere. They’re asking us what happened to them, what happened to everybody? You have to be careful with what you say sometimes.

Are there any stories of the Tla’amin which particularly resonate with the kids?

Laura: I took a hike with the kids recently, and we were walking along and one of the women here pointed out a tree — a cedar tree. And Bowie told everyone of how the First Nations would collect the bark from the tree to make hats from and so on. There was another tree which you could see bear scratches on, so Bowie asked, “Do you think the First Nations watched the bear scratch the tree, and that’s how the figured out you can use the bark?’ I thought that was great; the kids are learning how to live in harmony with animals. That’s what you learn from nature — how to use it sustainably.

Tasha, from what I understand, you’ve twice quit modelling to go live on a farm in the countryside?

Tasha: At least twice! I’ve taken many breaks to reestablish my connection with myself and my environment, or my life in general. I’ve felt I’ve always had to work and then take a step back to be able to then work again. To recharge.

As fashion and the modelling industry can be...

Tasha: ...Intense. It can be. I’d bought my farm near Toronto when I was 16, and I first took a break when I was 17, 18 after I’d been working so, so much, and I didn’t have anything to ground myself with. I really needed to take some time to go back there, to be able to appreciate myself and the skills I could do physically and mentally that were not related to what I looked like. So since then, I’ve learnt to take steps back and take the time to recharge, and now I feel I have a really good balance. I’m working quite a lot right now, and it’s so nice I can come back to the farm and make things and have my routine to fall back on. I can feel the rhythm of that.

How about yourself Laura, can you tell us more about your work?

Laura: I was in the music business for almost a decade. The last time we left to move to Canada, I was working in a recording studio as a sting producer — it was a lot, 24 hours a day. With having kids, you really want to get into their rhythm, so we were lucky with being able to take some time off when we moved. But I also really love to work. It has been a bit challenging in our area, but I have found work for a non-profit — a great non-profit organisation in our town that arranges all of the social enterprises in our community. I helped launch a coffee shop in our local library, a social enterprise. I started off by volunteering, just showing up for these community things, which is how you network and meet people. I’m still trying to find a rhythm, but it feels good to be associated with things that are benefiting the community. You can actually see, or feel, the change because it’s a small town.

What are your plans for the year ahead, and in the longer term?

Tasha: We’re trying to develop a sustainable farm, and we’re taking it day-by-day, or month-by-month because we are still at the initial stages. There are a lot of ideas. We may make small batches of wine, turn the farm into a market garden, set up a small-onsite store selling local artisan’s wares and the things we produce here. We’re still trying to figure it out exactly, as a business, as a lifestyle — as a thing we can have fun with and enjoy and not get overwhelmed by. We’re not trying to make a big amount of money with it or anything like that. The idea is to have a nice environment for the kids, and to have some kind of family legacy for the kids that we can develop.

Do you see yourselves growing old in the house?

Tasha: It’s really hard as a nomad. I just arrived from New York last night on Philippines Airlines, and I’m like, the Philippines — that looks like a fun place to go! I think I’m ready for a little bit of sun, as I’ve been working a lot recently, and I work hard when I’m here on the farm. I work until sundown, it’s really physical, which I love, but I recognise I need another kind of recharge time also.

Laura: It’s in Tasha’s DNA that every two years she gets itchy feet and wants to move.

Tasha: It’s that Viking blood — “where can I go and find a new spot?”.

Is Tilberg a Swedish name?

Tasha: Yes, it means ‘of the mountain.’ My heritage is Swedish and Finnish and Russian and Irish.

So you’re made for this landscape of pines, lakes and long winters.

Tasha: Yeah! A lot of this land was homesteaded by Finns and Swedes as well. Our old house was near the town of Lund [a famous Swedish university city]. We also had Finn Bay. There’s a big tie here between those people who came and homesteaded here. I really connect with that part of my heritage. I like it.

It looks like we’re nearing the end of our time together, is there anything you would like to add?

Laura: The only thing I would like to say is that having kids, marriage; people might get a certain image of how it is — Tasha’s a model, so we’re doing okay financially — but we have the same struggles as anybody has. Marriage is a lot of work. Kids are a lot of work. You start to wonder what your identity is now when you have kids, as it’s all going to them. I’m really grateful that we’re all healthy, that we’re able to travel, that we’re able to do and have all the things we have. The one thing with kids is how do you keep them grateful? We live in this era where kids are sort of entitled and pampered — it’s not easy.

Interview Xerxes Cook

Creative direction and casting M/M (Paris)

After an original idea by Jonny Johansson

Photographs Craig McDean

Styling Vanessa Reid

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私は長い間、家族のコンセプトを考えてきました。私はこのコンセプトがとても気に入っています。なぜなら、Acne Studiosは共同体としてスタートし、当時私たちはお互いを家族だと考えていたからです。現代的な家族です。

このような経緯の中で、私たちはアトランタを拠点とするカップルであるKordale LewisとKaleb Anthony、そしてDesmiray、Maliyah、Kordale Junior、Kaleb Juniorという彼らの美しい子供たちに出会いました。そこで私たちは、InezとVinoodhに依頼して、休暇中の同ファミリーが滞在しているニューヨークのホテルで彼らを撮影してもらいました。



フェイスモチーフが、このコンセプトにどう当てはまるのかって? そうですね、フェイスモチーフは、ごく普通のスウェーデン市民なんです。特段幸福なわけでも、不幸なわけでもありません。その中間なんです。スウェーデン語で言うところの「Lagom」です。私みたいな人ですよ。

Jonny Johansson(ジョニー・ヨハンソン)
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Kaleb Juniorは生後8ヵ月。以下のページでは、彼の2人の父親であるKaleb AnthonyとKordale Lewisが、自分たちの暮らしについて作家のXerxes Cookに語っています。Xerxesはアメリカ出身、ロンドン在住で、一児の父です。



Kaleb Anthony:私は生まれも育ちもジョージア州アトランタです。私とKordaleの人生は、まったく異なります。我々の家庭環境は真逆で、共通点がないんです。私の両親は結婚30年を迎え、私は犬のいるアメリカの典型的なマイホームで育ち、両親は今でも仲良く暮らしています。両親は共に教育水準が高く、私も親に植え付けられた同様の教育モデルを手本に育ちました。Kordaleは私とは違う経験をしています。私の父は保険業界で30年間働き、母は営業部門で30年間働きました。現在、両親はそれぞれ起業家として事業を経営しています。たぶん私も両親と同じ道を歩み、この価値観を私たち一家に取り入れたいのだと思います。

Kordale、あなたは著書『Picture Perfect』の中で、ご自身の成長期に直面した苦難について書いていますね。その幼少期の経験について、少しお話しいただけますか?

Kordale Lewis:私はシカゴ出身です。私には3人の実子がいます。我が家の上3人の子どもたちは、私の実子です。私は一度しか父の顔を見た覚えがないんです。父は2人を殺害した罪で、私が2歳の頃から服役しているからです。母は私が5歳の頃からドラッグを常用し、現在も同じ状況です。成長期の暮らしは大変でしたよ。里親の家を転々としたりね。私は15歳の時に、子どもたちの母親に出会ったんです。彼女は私が16歳の時に妊娠しました。私は高校を卒業して大学に2年間通いましたが、中退しました。そしてアトランタに移り、それから約2年後にKalebと出会い、以来私たちは6年以上一緒に暮らしています。私はKalebの家業のために仕事をしたことがあるんです。Comcastやレストランで働きましたが、特にキャリアを重視した仕事ではありませんでした。私は人の下で働くのではなく、自分で事業をするべきなんだと思います。おおむね、私は父親としての自分を楽しんでいますよ。私は家庭的な人間で、これが私の人生です。私は他の人生を知らないんですよ。十代の頃から、そして二十代も、今のように生きてきて、もうすぐ訪れる三十代でもそれは変わらないんです。












Kordale:私はずっと、自分がゲイだとわかっていました。昔から男性に惹かれるんです。でも中西部で育ち、ゲイだと知られたくなかったので、極めて男っぽい男友達と行動を共にして、自分がゲイであることを隠そうとしていました。自分の本心ではないけれど、女性と性的な関係を持ちました。十代だった私は避妊をしませんでした。DNAテストをするまで、上の2人の子どもが自分の実子だとは知らなかったんですがね。それで、彼女が3人目の子どもであるKordale Juniorを身ごもっているときに、彼女に(自分はゲイだと)伝えたのです。彼女の反応は、「やっぱりゲイなのね!」でしたよ。彼女は疑っていたんです。息子が生まれて2ヶ月後に私たちは別れました。彼女は別の人と交際を始め、私はアトランタに転居しました。









Kaleb:正直なところ、私は自分たちがしてきたことに満足しています。Kordaleが非常に若かったことで、最良の結果になったんです。このように考えればいいんですよ、私たちが35歳になる頃には、子供たちは自分のことは自分でできるようになるんです。彼らはその頃には、物事を自分で行ったり、自分探しをしたくなったりする年頃になるんです。Kaleb Juniorはまだ幼いでしょうが、他の子供たちが世話を手伝えるでしょうし、私たちはまだ人生の「現役」として、Kordaleが若い頃にできなかったことを実現できるでしょう。


「Kordale Juniorは社交的になってきました。以前は神経質で動揺しがちな子でしたが、今では変なユーモアのセンスが開花してきています。誰に似たんでしょうね」



Kaleb:40歳になること、そして1人だけの子どもと一緒に世界旅行ができるようになることを楽しみにしています。40歳になれば、大半の人は豊富なキャリア経験を積んで、金銭的にも少し余裕ができます。12年後、私たちが計画通りに物事を続けていれば―保険会社を起業するための資金を貯めているところなんですが―子どもたちの教育費や7月にイタリアを旅するための旅費などを払えるだけの経済力がついていると思います。その頃にはKaleb Juniorは10~11歳になりますし、いつでも祖母の家で過ごすことができます。






Kordale:Maliyahは、ちょっとビッグマウスで、自分が誰よりも賢いと思っているんですよ。Desmirayは歌姫。10歳ですが35歳の表現力があります。Kordale Juniorは社交的になってきました。以前は神経質で動揺しがちな子でしたが、今ではユーモアのセンスが開花してきています。3週間前に祖父が他界したのですが、私にとっては大きな出来事でした。子どもたちを座らせて祖父の訃報を告げると、Kordale Juniorは「ああ、だからこれはbreaking news*だ」って言ったんです。(*breaking newsは「最新ニュース」という意味だが、breakingには「破壊的な」という意味もある) 彼にはこのように変なユーモアのセンスがあるんですよ。誰に似たんでしょうね。

今回のAcne Studiosの撮影に向けたニューヨーク旅行では、子どもたちの様子はいかがでしたか?


お子さんたちにとっては初のニューヨークでしたか? お子さんたちは何を見たがっていましたか?

Kaleb:はい。タイムズスクエアを見たがっていました。誰だってタイムズスクエアを見たいですからね。街を歩いて、公園に行き、おもちゃを買いたいと言っていました。子どもたちをLEGOLANDに連れて行きました。本当は彼らに巨大トイストアのFAO Schwarzを見せたかったのですが、もうなくなってしまったんですね、知らなかったな。映画『ホーム・アローン』が撮影された場所にも連れて行きました。アイスクリームも食べました。子どもたちは気に入っていましたよ。楽しかったです。


では、アトランタでの暮らしはいかがですか? 郊外に大きな家をお持ちのようですが?







学校の他のお子さんたちは、二人の父親を持つMaliyah、Desmiray、Kordale Juniorに対してどのような反応を示していますか?

Kaleb:私よりもKordaleの方が、よく子どもたちを迎えに行っていた時期があり、ある日私が迎えに行くと、ある子どもが言ったんですよ、「ちょっと待ってよ、別の男の人がキミのパパだと思っていたけど、キミにはパパが二人いるの? それってすごくカッコいいね!」








「ちょっと待ってよ、別の男の人がキミのパパだと思っていたけど、キミにはパパが二人いるの? それってすごくカッコいいね!」

左から右の順に:Kaleb Anthony(29歳)、Desmiray(10歳)、Kordale Junior(8歳)、Maliyah(9歳)、Kordale Lewis(28歳)、Kaleb Junior(8ヵ月)。ニューヨークのセントラルパークを望むホテル、ザ シェリー ネザーランドのペアレンタルスイートで楽しむ一家。


Kordale:我々にとって、そのような人たちはあまり重要ではないんです。一週間もしたら、気にならなくなりました。 人々のいかなる言動も、この子たちが我々の子どもだという事実を変えることはできないんです。








Kaleb:二人は養子をもらったの? 実のところ、子どもたちの母親は同じ人なんです。





Kaleb:それは素晴らしい考えですね。我々も子どもたちを同じように育てようとしています。例えば、私は来週29歳になるのですが、子どもたちは家事をしてお金を稼ぎました。我々が子どもたちに明確に伝えたいのは、我々のような、いつも物を与えてくれる人がいるなら、彼らはこのお金を自分のために使うべきではないということです。そこで、私は子どもたちに誕生日のウィッシュリストを渡しました。例えば8ドルのシャツや2ドルの帽子などです。私たちは、子どもたちが自分のことだけを考える思考から抜け出して、他の人々のために行動するよう働きかけています。孤児院に出かけてプレゼントを贈るというのは素晴らしい考えで、私も実行したいと思います。自分のベッドやテレビがない子どもや、新しい服を着ていない子どもがいることを、子どもたちに示すためです。孤児院の子どもたちは、何をもらっても喜びます。それがAIR JORDANのスニーカーならなおさらですよ、たとえ誰かのお古でもね。

すでに何度も聞かれたかもしれない質問をしてもいいですか? 娘さんたちにとって、女性のロールモデルがいることは重要だと思いますか? つまり、娘さんたちがその人から学び、あなた方には話せないことを打ち明けられるような女性の存在ですが。


ではもう一つ、たぶんよく聞かれる個人的な質問をしてもよろしいですか? 先程すべてのお子さんのお母さんは同一人物だとおっしゃいましたが、Kaleb Juniorのお母さんもそうなんですか? どうやって妊娠したんですか?

Kaleb:構いませんよ、私たちはオープンに話していますから。私たちは体外受精を検討し、その費用は約3万ドルでした。母親にも報酬を支払うので、それでは高額過ぎました。そこでAI(人工授精)という別のプロセスを試しましたが、その費用は1回につき3千ドルで、必ず成功するとは限りません。私たちは1回試し、不成功でした。ある時、友達がStorkという器具について教えてくれました。上部にカップがついたアームのような器具を想像してみてください。カップに精子を入れるとそれが閉じ、それを女性が膣に入れると、精子が解放される仕組みです。それで、我々は子どもを授かるために10ヵ月かけて、Storkに加えて自然な方法も試しました。一度の流産を経て、1月にKaleb Juniorができて、2016年10月12日に誕生しました。

最後に立ち入った質問ですが、Kaleb Juniorの実の父親は誰ですか?














Kordale:Kordale LewisはKathy Griffinが大好きだと、皆さんに知ってほしいです。


ジャーナリストと話す際に、何か心配していることはありますか? 本インタビューの編集にあたり、私が注意すべき点はありますか?



—一家をフォローしましょう @kordalenkaleb

インタビュー:Xerxes Cook


原案:Jonny Johansson

撮影:Inez & Vinoodh

スタイリング:Vanessa Reid

グルーミング:Michael Johnson

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